Miroku Age Serial Number

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To find the year of proof of yourPost 1975) Browning, Miroku shotgun you'll need to find the Serial Number. Release Date: 6/19/2013. Speed dating magyar. I have acquired a secondhand Miroku MK70,, wonder how old it is. Stay safe while chatting to other singles in scotland with our free to use dating.. The Miroku factory.

Italian guns are easily dated by a code - not in the serial numbers but next to the proof mark. Here's the list - and apologies for a rather long post: Roman numeral series I=1945; II=1946; III=1947; IV=1948; V=1949, VI=1950; VII=1951; VIII=1952; IX=1953; X=1954; XI=1955; XIII=1957; XIV=1958; XV=1959; XVI=1960; XVII=1962; XIX=1963; XX=1964; XXI=1965; XXII=1966; XXIII=1967; XXIV=1968; XXV=1969; XXVI=1970; XXVII=1971; XXVIII=1972; XXIX=1973; XXX=1974. The above Roman numerals are the official version, but I have heard of some Arabic numerals creeping in as a sort of “shorthand” – for instance, XX8 for 1972 – in order to save space. Letter series AA=1975; AB=1976; AC=1977; AD=1978AE=1979; AF=1980; AH=1981; AI=1982; AL=1983; AM=1984; AN=1985: AP=1986; AS=1987; AT=1988; AU=1989; AZ=1990; BA=1991; BB=1992; BC=1993; BD=1994; BF=1995; BH=1996; BI=1997; BL=1998; BM=1999; BN=2000; BP=2001; BS=2002; BT=2003; BU=2004; BZ=2005; CA=2006; CB=2007; CC=2008. You may wonder why the letter sequence is not logical. El Rey Vikingo Del Paraguay Pdf File there. The reason is that the Italian language does not use the full alphabet – J,K,W,X and Y are not used in Italian words.

The letter O is missed out because of a possible confusion with zero, while Q also leads to confusion when stamped very small. Italian guns are easily dated by a code - not in the serial numbers but next to the proof mark.

Here's the list - and apologies for a rather long post: Roman numeral series I=1945; II=1946; III=1947; IV=1948; V=1949, VI=1950; VII=1951; VIII=1952; IX=1953; X=1954; XI=1955; XIII=1957; XIV=1958; XV=1959; XVI=1960; XVII=1962; XIX=1963; XX=1964; XXI=1965; XXII=1966; XXIII=1967; XXIV=1968; XXV=1969; XXVI=1970; XXVII=1971; XXVIII=1972; XXIX=1973; XXX=1974. The above Roman numerals are the official version, but I have heard of some Arabic numerals creeping in as a sort of “shorthand” – for instance, XX8 for 1972 – in order to save space. Letter series AA=1975; AB=1976; AC=1977; AD=1978AE=1979; AF=1980; AH=1981; AI=1982; AL=1983; AM=1984; AN=1985: AP=1986; AS=1987; AT=1988; AU=1989; AZ=1990; BA=1991; BB=1992; BC=1993; BD=1994; BF=1995; BH=1996; BI=1997; BL=1998; BM=1999; BN=2000; BP=2001; BS=2002; BT=2003; BU=2004; BZ=2005; CA=2006; CB=2007; CC=2008. You may wonder why the letter sequence is not logical. The reason is that the Italian language does not use the full alphabet – J,K,W,X and Y are not used in Italian words. The letter O is missed out because of a possible confusion with zero, while Q also leads to confusion when stamped very small. Thanks For That But I Taught Miroku Were Japenese?

I Could Be Wrong About That Though. But there Is No Number Or Letter On It Apart From An M Infront Of The Serial Number! Italian guns are easily dated by a code - not in the serial numbers but next to the proof mark. Here's the list - and apologies for a rather long post: Roman numeral series I=1945; II=1946; III=1947; IV=1948; V=1949, VI=1950; VII=1951; VIII=1952; IX=1953; X=1954; XI=1955; XIII=1957; XIV=1958; XV=1959; XVI=1960; XVII=1962; XIX=1963; XX=1964; XXI=1965; XXII=1966; XXIII=1967; XXIV=1968; XXV=1969; XXVI=1970; XXVII=1971; XXVIII=1972; XXIX=1973; XXX=1974. The above Roman numerals are the official version, but I have heard of some Arabic numerals creeping in as a sort of “shorthand” – for instance, XX8 for 1972 – in order to save space.

Thanks For That But I Taught Miroku Were Japenese? I Could Be Wrong About That Though. But there Is No Number Or Letter On It Apart From An M Infront Of The Serial Number! Miroku is browning is italian but made in japan under the miroku name, there will be 2 letters next to the proof marks, check them against that list and it will give you the year of manufacture. Italian guns are easily dated by a code - not in the serial numbers but next to the proof mark. Here's the list - and apologies for a rather long post: Roman numeral series I=1945; II=1946; III=1947; IV=1948; V=1949, VI=1950; VII=1951; VIII=1952; IX=1953; X=1954; XI=1955; XIII=1957; XIV=1958; XV=1959; XVI=1960; XVII=1962; XIX=1963; XX=1964; XXI=1965; XXII=1966; XXIII=1967; XXIV=1968; XXV=1969; XXVI=1970; XXVII=1971; XXVIII=1972; XXIX=1973; XXX=1974.

The above Roman numerals are the official version, but I have heard of some Arabic numerals creeping in as a sort of “shorthand” – for instance, XX8 for 1972 – in order to save space. Letter series AA=1975; AB=1976; AC=1977; AD=1978AE=1979; AF=1980; AH=1981; AI=1982; AL=1983; AM=1984; AN=1985: AP=1986; AS=1987; AT=1988; AU=1989; AZ=1990; BA=1991; BB=1992; BC=1993; BD=1994; BF=1995; BH=1996; BI=1997; BL=1998; BM=1999; BN=2000; BP=2001; BS=2002; BT=2003; BU=2004; BZ=2005; CA=2006; CB=2007; CC=2008.

You may wonder why the letter sequence is not logical. The reason is that the Italian language does not use the full alphabet – J,K,W,X and Y are not used in Italian words.

The letter O is missed out because of a possible confusion with zero, while Q also leads to confusion when stamped very small. Thanks For That But I Taught Miroku Were Japenese?

I Could Be Wrong About That Though. But there Is No Number Or Letter On It Apart From An M Infront Of The Serial Number! Miroku is browning is italian but made in japan under the miroku name, there will be 2 letters next to the proof marks, check them against that list and it will give you the year of manufacture There Is no letters beside them but thank you anyway! Italian guns are easily dated by a code - not in the serial numbers but next to the proof mark.

The reason is that the Italian language does not use the full alphabet – J,K,W,X and Y are not used in Italian words. The letter O is missed out because of a possible confusion with zero, while Q also leads to confusion when stamped very small. As for this list that you copied from the internet. My previous gun was a DT10 whose serial number started with AF which your list would say was made in 1980 and not 2001, which is when it was actually made. Italian guns are easily dated by a code - not in the serial numbers but next to the proof mark. Here's the list - and apologies for a rather long post: Roman numeral series I=1945; II=1946; III=1947; IV=1948; V=1949, VI=1950; VII=1951; VIII=1952; IX=1953; X=1954; XI=1955; XIII=1957; XIV=1958; XV=1959; XVI=1960; XVII=1962; XIX=1963; XX=1964; XXI=1965; XXII=1966; XXIII=1967; XXIV=1968; XXV=1969; XXVI=1970; XXVII=1971; XXVIII=1972; XXIX=1973; XXX=1974. The above Roman numerals are the official version, but I have heard of some Arabic numerals creeping in as a sort of “shorthand” – for instance, XX8 for 1972 – in order to save space.

Letter series AA=1975; AB=1976; AC=1977; AD=1978AE=1979; AF=1980; AH=1981; AI=1982; AL=1983; AM=1984; AN=1985: AP=1986; AS=1987; AT=1988; AU=1989; AZ=1990; BA=1991; BB=1992; BC=1993; BD=1994; BF=1995; BH=1996; BI=1997; BL=1998; BM=1999; BN=2000; BP=2001; BS=2002; BT=2003; BU=2004; BZ=2005; CA=2006; CB=2007; CC=2008. You may wonder why the letter sequence is not logical. The reason is that the Italian language does not use the full alphabet – J,K,W,X and Y are not used in Italian words. The letter O is missed out because of a possible confusion with zero, while Q also leads to confusion when stamped very small. As for this list that you copied from the internet. My previous gun was a DT10 whose serial number started with AF which your list would say was made in 1980 and not 2001, which is when it was actually made that date code is available all over the net.

Pigeon watch/sporting clays/shotgun world and so on, all say correct and it says mine was 1989 and the man that stocked it at diamond gunsmith services confimed that in a phone call. Have a look yourself mate im sure its even on the beretta web site somewhere, its even on guntrader.

New to the forum. Need some expert help. I have a 12 ga O/U BC Miroku in Kochi Japan. Love the gun. The value is not that important to me because I'm keeping it, but I'd like to find out exactly what model/grade it is. Here's what I know: Purchased in the Okinawa PX circa 1970. 12 gauge O/U.

Serial number 342074. Monte Carlo stock.

Mid-bead on barrel. Fairly wide vent rib. Quality scrollwork. Other than 'Charles Daly' and 'Miroku Firearms Mfg. Kochi Japan' it's not labeled as to what model/grade it is.

I think it's either a superior grade or a diamond grade, but I can't be sure. Also not sure about any sub-grades i.e. Trap or skeet.

Picture's worth a thousand words so attached are a couple of good ones. I'd really love to identify the model/grade and any sub-grade with some degree of accuracy. Any info you can offer me would be helpful. Keith Masterson. Kbatmast: You have what looks to me to be a Superior Grade Trap Gun. I know the engraving is Superior style but what is throwing me a little is the coin finish of the receiver. The only other one I saw like that was commemorative and I think it was a Ducks Unlimited trap gun.

When you open the gun and looking on the left sides of the barrel flats there should be some + and or - signs. I may have my signs confused and there maybe some ** mixed with +. If you want to get back to us with a picture of the area I described I can as well as many others on this site can tell you from those marks how the gun is choked. In my opinion for the money you have one of the finest shotguns ever made. For what ever it is worth I have owned a few fifty thousand dollar shotguns in my time and while your gun probably cost less than a thousand dollars new it is every bit the gun many of those much higher priced and undeserving popular makes. Here awhile back I patterned a brand new Perazzi SCO Sidelock sporting clays gun(40+K gun) and the two barrels printed 2 feet vertical distance different at 30 yards. I have a Superior Grade Miroku skeet gun that has shot thousands of rounds of skeet and never has missed a beat and is still tight.

Thanks for the quick reply. You've hit on my dilemma. I agree, it sort of 'looks' like a Superior grade, but every other Superior grade I've seen advertised has a blued type finish on all the receiver scrollwork. Not the silver coin finish that my gun has. Also there's a part of the stock that doesn't mesh with other Superior grades I've seen. The stock, just aft of the receiver has a flat, arrowhead shaped area.

Just behind this area is a 'teardrop' adornment. I've never seen this on any advertised Superior grade. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just means I haven't seen it. I have seen two or three guns advertised on gunsamerica & cabela's as Diamond grades. They looked similar to my gun because they had the coin finish receiver with good scrollwork. And they were similar in that the stock just aft of the receiver had that 'teardrop' feature.

As you asked, I've posted a few more pics of the flats of the barrels. The top barrel has just a + (which I think is a full choke) the bottom barrel has a +- (which I think is a modified choke). Any confirmation or correction on that is welcome. I read on another forum once that 'Charles Daly BC Miroku Trap or Skeet Superior Grade guns had pads and mid-beads' (my gun has both pad & mid-bead), but the 2009 Standard Catalog of Firearms (SCF) shows a picture of the Superior Grade Trap gun and it has the blued finish receiver. Plus, when you zoom in real close on the picture of SCF's Superior Grade Trap, there's no teardrop feature on the stock.

This leads me to believe it 'might' be a Diamond grade.but SCF does list a Diamond Grade Trap or Skeet. But it says it has 'either 26' Skeet & Skeet or 30' full choke barrels and Monte Carlo stocks.' It also says 'Note: Wide rib add 5 percent'. My gun has the Monte Carlo stock and the Wide rib, but has 28' barrels that are full/modified. As you can see, lots of conflicting information.

Appreciate anyone who can clarify this for me. Thanks, kbatmast. Trap55, thanks for your post. I like your ‘aim small, miss small’ quote. From the movie The Patriot, right?

Here are the answers to your two questions: The barrel length is 28”. The vent rib is a full 3/8” wide (10mm for metric loving folks). As ventilated ribs go, it’s a big wide fat one. You also said, >>My bet is a on a Diamond Grade Flat top Trap, coin finish and ejector cut off option, were customer requested options. Kbatmast, dang that's a fine looking shotgun! Miroku/Daly O/U's are the basic same shotgun as the Browning Citori and Winchester 101.

Do some Googlefu and search 'Browning Broadway Trap', that was the Browning model that used that wide rib. Yours I'd say, is about a Grade III, if it were a Browning. 'Diamond Grade Flat Top Trap', I think came with 30' barrels. The 'Flat Top' refers to the rib being level with the top of the receiver, like yours. Most 'Trap Model' guns have a rib that is raised up higher. Muddober was close, they used the same choke stamps Browning did.

* is Full *- is Improved Modified O/U Trap guns are typically Full/Full or Full/IM And yes, 'aim small, miss small' from the Patriot. I taught my boys to aim for the squirrels ear, not his head.

Now they both out shoot me! Or at least they'll figure out that they do, when they see I been messing with their sights.

Age and Treachery will always overcome Youth and Skill! I think we've pretty much solved this riddle thanks to Jim Wisner.

I emailed Wisnersinc.com for some help. They have an excellent website and manufacture some of the hard-to-find parts for the the Charles Daly Miroku (and others). Jim says: >>>There is very little info out there, and what I have been able to piece together is from old price lists, and catalogs. It is a Superior grade as per the engraving style, I have seen a couple other ones with a silver receiver, but have not found it in any catalogs. The Monte Carlo butt stock was used on trap grades.

The tear drop on the stock is shown in a 1969 catalogue, but not later in that grade. Jim Wisner>>The tear drop on the stock is shown in a 1969 catalogue>>It is a Superior grade as per the engraving style, I have seen a couple other ones with a silver receiver>>I had to get my other glasses out, and really look at the old catolges, they are the old line drawings, not photos. The 1969 spec sheet is the best one, and shows a close up of the Slexor / engraving. Your shotgun is a Diamond grade., the interior of the engraving has separation in the mid section that forms the arc.

While the Superior grade engraving is solid in the same section. At the first glance they look the same, but that little detail line is the give away, And there is a small note about a Special nickel Finish in the price list only on that grade.

There is another note that it came with a standard dimension trap stock, but it may be ordered in all standard gauges, barrel lengths, and chokes. Model # 571 was 12 ga 30 inch Mod & full 572 30 inch full / full 573 30 inch Imp Mod/ full retail in 1969 was $ 575 I hope this clarifys it better. Been a while since I posted to this particular topic, but I have info that definitively solves the riddle. My uncle (the US Marine who brought the gun back) was digging through some old paperwork recently and came across a bunch of papers relevant to this gun. He gave them to me.

Consisted of Customs form, IRS Form 6A Release and Receipt of Imported Firearms, Charles Daly owner's manual and, most importantly, a Charles Daly tag from my shotgun indicating Grade/Model/Gauge/Barrel Length etc. The short answer is: It's a Diamond Grade Owner's manual says + is full choke (my top barrel) and +- is modified (my bottom barrel). So that's verified too. I'll try to post a pic of the tag.

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