Dpms Lower Serial Number
I have been over to the other 'ahem' site for AR15's and all they do is bash DPMS. I can say that I do own a Carbine length one and have never had a problem with it and the fit and finish are very good. The other site has people who build kit guns starting with a DPMS complete lower and if they are doing that, why the hell bash the name in general when they are using a complete part made by your Company? They say that your charging handle is narrower and that your ambi's do not fit. I know from experience that no 2 gunmakers are the same when it comes to putting out parts for Their guns and making parts that would be universal to all guns made by different makers is next to impossible, too many variances, as there are no 2 milling or metal lathes that are the same or the operators of those particular machines making the parts.

Any of you fellas have any experiance with DPMS? I would avoid the older cast receivers personally (that's any receiver where the serial number doesn't start with an 'F'), but you don't see them around too much anymore. Many a gun show special is a DPMS lower with a Model 1 upper slapped on. This guide to 80% Lower Receivers covers the following topics. No serial number is required however it is suggested to engrave a serial number, model and manufacturer on your receiver in case it is lost or stolen. The TM-10 lower receiver (.308) is compatible with DPMS upper receivers and DPMS.308 products.

I for one will not bash gunmakers in general because I was a gunsmith at one time before and have knowledge in that not every gun made will be 'exactly' the same as the other coming off of the assembly line just like there are no 2 cars that are the same coming off of that line. If people would have my insight of what the real world is about and stop the bashing of gunmakers, it would be a better world to live in but I guess we all at one time or another were brought up with some kind of negativity built into us. Just my two cents and take it as you would. One of the biggest problems we experience is when a call comes in and the 'customer' is mad because his 'DPMS' rifle that he bought at a gunshow the past weekend is not operating properly, jamming, short stroking, ect. We simply ask for the serial number, check for the usual DPMS markings only to find out the only part that is verifiable is the lower. Stripped lowers are marked with a 'K' at the end of the serial number to indicate 'kit'.
We explain to the 'customer' that his rifle is not a factory built DPMS and does not have a factory warranty. The customer still thinks that he has a DPMS rifle because that is the only marking found any ware on the rifle. And guess what if he gets into a conversation with someone about AR's he will tell them all about his faulty 'DPMS' Most all 'problems' are created from people with limited experience with the product. Example, customer buys an AR lower then a lower parts kit.
Customer has problems assembling parts in lower (parts look to big/small) and then says 'the lower parts are junk'. Remember, Everything you read on a forum is the absolute truth and no one spews bad/incorrect information Jason/DPMS.
One of the biggest problems we experience is when a call comes in and the 'customer' is mad because his 'DPMS' rifle that he bought at a gunshow the past weekend is not operating properly, jamming, short stroking, ect. We simply ask for the serial number, check for the usual DPMS markings only to find out the only part that is verifiable is the lower.
Stripped lowers are marked with a 'K' at the end of the serial number to indicate 'kit'. We explain to the 'customer' that his rifle is not a factory built DPMS and does not have a factory warranty. The customer still thinks that he has a DPMS rifle because that is the only marking found any ware on the rifle.
And guess what if he gets into a conversation with someone about AR's he will tell them all about his faulty 'DPMS' Most all 'problems' are created from people with limited experience with the product. Example, customer buys an AR lower then a lower parts kit. Customer has problems assembling parts in lower (parts look to big/small) and then says 'the lower parts are junk'.
Remember, Everything you read on a forum is the absolute truth and no one spews bad/incorrect information Jason/DPMS Man you summed that one up nicely. Not much you can add to that. Honestly the way people act they should feel lucky MFG's even offer stripped lowers seperately. It's not your fault they or whoever built their 'rifle' is stupid or inexperienced but usually they look for a scapegoat to lay blame on. Rather than admit they're idiots, blame the MFG if they can. One of the biggest problems we experience is when a call comes in and the 'customer' is mad because his 'DPMS' rifle that he bought at a gunshow the past weekend is not operating properly, jamming, short stroking, ect. We simply ask for the serial number, check for the usual DPMS markings only to find out the only part that is verifiable is the lower.
Stripped lowers are marked with a 'K' at the end of the serial number to indicate 'kit'. We explain to the 'customer' that his rifle is not a factory built DPMS and does not have a factory warranty. The customer still thinks that he has a DPMS rifle because that is the only marking found any ware on the rifle. And guess what if he gets into a conversation with someone about AR's he will tell them all about his faulty 'DPMS' Most all 'problems' are created from people with limited experience with the product.
Example, customer buys an AR lower then a lower parts kit. Customer has problems assembling parts in lower (parts look to big/small) and then says 'the lower parts are junk'. Remember, Everything you read on a forum is the absolute truth and no one spews bad/incorrect information Jason/DPMS Well of course, everyone is an expert on the internet. Afterbeing out of the AR game for the last 5 years(Had a Bushy CAR 15) I bought an AP-4 in 5.56 back in April and so far so good, absolutely love the finish on the rifle and haven't had a single malfunction.
Like others here I also found the 'other' forum and could not believe the amount of bashing that DPMS gets, while actual owners of DPMS rifles relate how they like their rifles, the 'other' forum attributes it to DPMS owners not knowing what quality is. In their opinion if your rifle is not an LMT, Noveske, or a COLT, then you own the biggest piece of S@#T rifle ever imposed on man! I even saw a post saying that a DPMs would not be a suitable rifle to use for home defense, I do not think that the home invader that gets shot will care whether that.223 round that went through him came from a DPMS, Oly, Bushy, LMT, Noveske, or Colt! I guess people just have to justify why they spent a lot more money on their rifle. I am a newcomer to the world of AR platform rifles.
I know lots of people with them but liked to shoot a bit more 'traditional' firearms. My first ar was a DPMS and since i bought it i havent shot any of my other guns. An instant ar nut. My ar shoots perfect in every way i can quantify. And my groups keep getting better. My gun outperforms most of my Bushmaster and oly friends in every aspect of the game. The finish is much better than my sis's gun and even better yet than a co-workers.
I know because i added some paint to the brand and caliber etchings on all three. Perhaps my experience is better than others but i have been so impressed with DPMS rifles, only wish i could finally get that hat i ordered weeks ago! One of the biggest problems we experience is when a call comes in and the 'customer' is mad because his 'DPMS' rifle that he bought at a gunshow the past weekend is not operating properly, jamming, short stroking, ect. We simply ask for the serial number, check for the usual DPMS markings only to find out the only part that is verifiable is the lower. Stripped lowers are marked with a 'K' at the end of the serial number to indicate 'kit'.
We explain to the 'customer' that his rifle is not a factory built DPMS and does not have a factory warranty. The customer still thinks that he has a DPMS rifle because that is the only marking found any ware on the rifle. And guess what if he gets into a conversation with someone about AR's he will tell them all about his faulty 'DPMS' Most all 'problems' are created from people with limited experience with the product. Example, customer buys an AR lower then a lower parts kit. Customer has problems assembling parts in lower (parts look to big/small) and then says 'the lower parts are junk'. Remember, Everything you read on a forum is the absolute truth and no one spews bad/incorrect information Jason/DPMS Jason, I'm glad to hear good news about DPMS.
I am starting with a DPMS stripped lower, but plan on using DPMS through out. I realize that it still will not be a 'Factory' built gun, but hopefully the next best thing to one. I don't plan on cutting any corners. Brian KE4CXP 'The choice to carry a gun-- for whatever reason a person chooses-- is his [your] own.
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James Wesley, Rawles •. 1st time poster, been lurking here for awile. I too have noticed much DPMS bashing on the 'other' AR site. To be honest, it really turned me off, so I came here instead. I think people need to justify why they spent twice as much on a Colt or RRA, so they resort to bashing. It's nonsense to me.
I just purchased my first AR, a DPMS Lite 20 - and could not me more happy with it. I feel lucky to have gotten it at all. The AR stock where I got it at was depleted by about 1/2, and going fast.
Luckily, the dealer was not price gouging, so I got a good deal on it! I make my living inspecting machined Aerospace hardware. You could say I have an 'eye' for the quality of machining and parts in general. After a very through visual inspection of my new DPMS rilfe, I am happy to report that I did not encounter rough tool marks, bad finish, burrs or any other problems.
It all looks good to me! The fit and finish is excellent. Snk Vs Capcom Chaos Ps2 Iso Download.
I wish I could say the same about my new 10/22T Ruger. Depsite what the bashers say, if you're in the market and can find one, DPMS is a good buy. I'm looking forward to hanging out here and learning a few new things.thanks! Here's a pic of my new toy!
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Let them take arms. Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787 •. I am new to the AR15 scene, but i love my new panther carbine. Took it t the range and it shoots great!
The two aluminum mags that came with it did not feed properly, but they did not even get put in the rifle untill i was sure they would feed out correctly(i may be dumb but i aint stupid). The casing would get stuck on the front of the mag, so when i say what was going on, out came the leatherman and i filed down the front untill the casing cleared correctly. They work like a charm now. I bet some people have gone to the range with mags like that an think it is the guns fault when it does not feed. I thought I would never bash DPMS, but that is changing with this $25.95 PMag price. DPMS may cash in now, but they are turning their back on the AR-community. I would expect it from some shoddy seller on Gunbroker, but not from DPMS.
I'm not a spokesman for or affiliated in any way with the company, but with the high demand for mags and other AR stuff it is logical to think that the increased demand for a increasingly limited supply for components is also driving up their price to produce the mags. Plus, the companies are probably having to run extra shifts and such to meet demand thus pushing up their labor cost.
Well, this is interesting. The height of my upper above the charging handle is ½ inch. Mine isn't even listed on the G II brochure. Where do I go from here? Bill So okay. You gotta go from square one.is this a factory built gun or homebuilt?
Whats on rolled on the lower? Is it new or used? What does your paperwork say it is?
How bout a pic that would be nice? Did you buy it in a store or dark alley some place? If its not listed in the G2 brochure.then bingo you aint got a G2.Mattlock would be proud:) Wash. How do you know when buying a DPMS LR-308 that you are buying a rifle that was produced completely by DPMS or whether it was assembled from by an end user. The answer is easy.
DPMS adds a 'K' to the serial number of lower received that are sold as parts. This can be important when seeking warranty repairs. From our beloved leader So Bill you got yourself a nice factory weapon.Congrats! Now for your own good please take down the pic of the serial number.I always see the serial blurred out gotta be a good reason.lol okay lets do it.first.you need a DPMS claw (308) for holding the upper.some punches.allen wrenches and a vice go to the front page and you will see some vendors like brownell for that stuff. Determine the diameter of the barrel at the gas block before getting one.low profile ive never shopped for a handguard for a highrise but lets get busy!.get a good trigger too!:) Wash. Thank you again Wash, Here is what I am looking at as a possibility: Lowered gas blocks are all over the place, Is the gas port sealed in any way? I've yet to take it apart to see how it mates with the barrel in there.
At my age BUIS' aren't an option, therefore having a continuous 'topline' on the weapon doesn't matter to me as much as having the extra hand guard length. This rifle will probably only punch paper and the occasional coyote. If, as they say, the TSHTF, there are plenty of more suitable options available to me. Well its not that easy, DPMS is notorious for using some kind of loc-tite on their Gas blocks & Hand Guards, but you might get lucky & it will tap off. You are lucky you are not using a continuous rail on the hand guard ( not that you will find one to match up to the Target height rail you have ), because all you have to do is make sure you get a hand guard for a DPMS Gen.
I Receiver & your good to go. Sure looks like its a Carbine Gas system, but could be a Mid length. Any 12' Free Float Hand Guard will work fine & can go longer, if you like it.
There are a bunch of them out there & as said, not worried about which rail height, does make it easy. Some kind of strap wrench will work to get the Hand Guard off, but may need to heat the Nut area of the Hand Guard up, to loosen any Loc-Tite up, if it won't turn with just the strap wrench. Just need 'the Block ' to hold the Upper Receiver for removal. Here's a two 12' Hand guards, with Rifle length gas systems,with added top rails, which you don't want & these's Hand guards don't come with them.
Edited March 26, 2015 by survivalshop.